[10:33] : Okay, Agenda.
[10:33] (@Corinne) hurrah!
[10:33] : I) Apologies
[10:33] : II) Audition Stuff
[10:34] : III) The Preview
[10:34] : IV) Reports
[10:34] : V) Any Other Business
[10:34] * Kincaid apologies for bunking off and having fun in bristol last week
[10:34] : VI) The Destruction of The Universe
[10:34] (@Corinne) v) cake?
[10:34] (@Corinne) vii
[10:34] (@Corinne) I meant.
[10:34] (@Corinne) shutup corinne.
[10:35] : VII) Tea and Biscuits
[10:35] (@Corinne) want cake!
[10:35] : She who attempts to make my jokes before I get there doesn't get cake :-P
[10:35] (@Corinne) wa
[10:35] (@Joy) I'm not sure I actually have anythng to add at any point, other than asking "what preview"?
[10:35] (@Corinne) joy: it's a possibility.
[10:36] (@lonecat) b
[10:36] : Joy: Exactly, We have people here who need to know more about it than generally exists
[10:36] : Todays agenda is a DynaAgenda, specificly tailored to todays requirements on the basis I didn't have one prepared :-(
[10:37] (@Joy) 'k, any chance of racing through the agenda? /me is tired and it's late-ish and I have work to do this evening sitll
[10:37] : Okay, I'll swap II and III then
[10:37] (@Joy) Thanks :-)
[10:37] : First, however, has anyone heard from eric?
[10:37] (@Corinne) what about?
[10:37] (@David) Someone SMS Thomas, too
[10:38] (@Corinne) david: did
[10:38] (@David) ok
[10:38] : The newly demoted item III
[10:38] : Or his atendance here now
[10:38] : And I'd guess that's a no.
[10:38] (@Corinne) aq: he's going to be there but his retinue isn't.
[10:39] : Corinne: Okay
[10:39] : I'm making my apologies for not being here next week
[10:39] : Because I'm moving house
[10:40] (@Simon) ditto. I'll have just had the last night of a show...
[10:40] (@Corinne) simon: cast party then?
[10:40] (@Supermous) Aq; congratulations
[10:40] (@Supermous) I'll be elsewhere next weekend
[10:41] (@Simon) cor: and/or clearing up and/or sleeping...... (typically clearing up coincides with all the actors having their party)
[10:41] (@Thomas) i return
[10:41] (@David) Good grief - who *is* going to be here next week then?
[10:41] (@Joy) we could be thin enough on the ground to be transparent then
[10:41] (@Corinne) right, so the Preview.
[10:41] (@David) I've been having thinks about the Preview
[10:42] (@David) based - wait for it - on some of the stuff that's being bandied about vis-a-vis "Moulin Rouge"
[10:42] (@Corinne) huh?
[10:42] (@David) The promos for the film are in some ways very different from the film itslf, but in other ways, catch some of its essence nicely.
[10:43] (@David) I think our own Preview should aim for this
[10:43] (@David) so that it not only is used as a tool for ironing out bugs and precedent-setting,
[10:43] (@Corinne) rrright..
[10:43] : Okay, Hang on a tick, some people need a recap on this
[10:44] (@David) it can also play a very vital role in the promotion of the project proper
[10:44] (@David) oh, OK
[10:44] (@Thomas) preview/trailer?
[10:44] (@David) In a nutshell, Isuggested we make a Preview - a 2 or 3 minute long test piece
[10:44] (@Corinne) thinking more a single scene shot using as much technical gumph as we can.
[10:44] : <hat type="explaining"> A few weeks ago the idea of a "Preview" was suggested, a short scene filmed before we start the project to test the methods and ideas, and to make sure we *could* actually do it </hat>
[10:45] (@Thomas) ok.. understandable
[10:45] (@David) just to help bring the preliminary problems to the fore so they can be ironed out before dedicating time resources and finances to the proper project
[10:45] : Corinne: I'd disagree with a leaning towards Tech. One of the things we need to find out is the ease of getting cast members into the same place.
[10:46] (@David) I think Nick's right - the making of the Preview should be more a test of the project's organisational infrastructure, logitstical structure and personnel abilities
[10:47] (@David) Though at the same time, it can be a test of the technical abilities, both there and here
[10:47] (@Supermous) I agree with Aquarion on this
[10:47] *** Joins: eric (eric@bh-cw31-101.pool.dircon.co.uk)
[10:47] *** Supermous sets mode: +o eric
[10:47] (@Supermous) hi eric
[10:47] (@David) Weeeeeeel look what the cat dragged in...
[10:48] (@eric) hi folks...sorry I'm late..wetware problems
[10:48] (@David) Brandy!
[10:48] (@Corinne) the shower was broken?
[10:48] (@eric) wouldn't boot
[10:49] (@eric) I'd blame the alarm clock if I thought I could get away with it :(
[10:49] (@Thomas) but those pesky kids shut it off?
[10:49] : eric: Worry not, that's my excuse :-)
[10:50] (@David) Anyway, back to the Preview - I think it was still up in the air as to the exat *content* would be, though I think everyone was pretty much agreed that it should be *something* from Maskerade, the book.
[10:50] (@eric) yeah...but it woke me up fine...I know because I've obviously switched it off
[10:50] (@Corinne) I thought thom was supposed to be writing a scene for it..
[10:50] (@David) In that case, it's something Thom's writing... :-)
[10:51] (@Thomas) A medium difficulty scene... one that requires some tech gumph...
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[10:51] (@eric) the obvious thing for a preview would be to do a "the making of.." parody
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[10:51] (@Thomas) ow..
[10:51] (@Corinne) anyone any ideas for a scene?
[10:51] (@Corinne) <t>
[10:52] (@Joy) Something cast heavy in the opera house
[10:52] (@Thomas) something in the operahouse... maybe one of the scenes involving a letter?
[10:52] (@eric) depends what mood we want to set
[10:52] (@Thomas) on stage.. after.. undershaft is killed?
[10:52] (@Joy) the blood that's really paint dripping scene?
[10:53] (@Supermous) lots of people milling about in confusion, uncertainty and doubt... sounds about right
[10:53] (@Corinne) what's that got in the way of technicals though?
[10:53] (@eric) then I'd go for the audition scene
[10:53] (@Joy) someone hanging in the gds
[10:53] (@Joy) (thr paint one)
[10:53] : eric: Not enough people,
[10:54] (@Joy) phantom flitting through in the distance
[10:54] (@eric) why not...there should be loads hanging around backstage
[10:54] (@Corinne) something with more main characters, perhaps?
[10:55] (@David) Corinne: I take it Thom hasn't started writing a Preview script yet?
[10:55] (@Joy) I knw -- how about the dinner scene?
[10:55] (@Kincaid) heh heh heh
[10:55] (@eric) it has Agnes, Salzella and Undershaft...potentially also Christine...and it can have Walter and the phantom if you overrun the scene at both ends
[10:55] (@Thomas) hmm.. :)
[10:56] (@David) With Senor Basilica in hog heaven?
[10:56] (@Joy) yup, and nanny serving, granny *not* being overcome...
[10:56] (@Thomas) the dinner scene would also ahow our leading actors abilities to well... act
[10:56] (@Corinne) david: we could.
[10:56] (@Joy) Agnes catching a glimpse of the two of them, horrified...
[10:56] (@Thomas) ahow/show
[10:56] (@David) That might be a nice one
[10:56] (@Corinne) plus thom has no intention of putting it the *Actual* script, but wants to write it anyway.
[10:56] (@eric) Thomas...one of the reasons I'd rather shoot it later rather than sooner
[10:57] (@eric) Corinne...now that is a GOOD reason
[10:57] (@Thomas) hmm.. ok.. :)
[10:57] (@Joy) The advantage of the audition is that the lyrics are all ut written and I have a firm idea of the tune.
[10:58] (@David) Consider that any scene devoid of any SPFX is fine, since the whole thing will be topped and tailed wih graphics etc
[10:58] *** Quits: Supermous (Ping timeout for Supermous[m832-mp1-cvx3c.not.ntl.com])
[10:58] : David: This won't be. We will need Steam :-)
[10:58] (@David) :-P
[10:58] (@eric) the reason I suggested the audition is that it's already written...and it has the thing of Agnes not knowing what to expect which is a nice mood for a preview piece
[10:58] (@Corinne) hmm...how do you do slowly reddening faces?
[10:58] (@Thomas) cor: make-up
[10:58] (@David) Easy
[10:58] (@Thomas) when you cut between angles
[10:59] *** Joins: Supermous (supermouse@m312-mp1-cvx2a.not.ntl.com)
[10:59] (@David) Thomas: I could cange the colour of faces in shot by SPFX
[10:59] (@Joy) The dinner scene is very funny too.
[10:59] (@Thomas) mmm... ok
[10:59] (@Thomas) i just don't want an over-reliance on cgi...
[10:59] (@David) Me too :-P
[11:00] (@eric) agrred with that one...very important that the focus is human beans acting
[11:00] (@Corinne) it's an indoor set ... anyone got a room with the right dimensions, etc?
[11:01] (@eric) right decor too
[11:01] (@Thomas) I've got a mate who's got a giant greenscreen...
[11:01] : A nice baroque office-type place
[11:01] (@Thomas) not acutally useful here, but just thought i should mention
[11:01] (@Joy) My Parents might be pesuadable to let you use their living room
[11:01] (@Joy) (12th century manor house in Dorset :-) )
[11:02] (@Corinne) what would we do about the windows?
[11:02] (@Thomas) oooh ooh.. yes please :)
[11:02] (@Joy) Pull the curtains?
[11:02] (@eric) Corinne...not point the camera at them is favourite
[11:02] (@Corinne) ..duh.
[11:02] (@Joy) It's evening, after all
[11:03] : Er, Don't forget we will be tipping buckets of water over the place here :-)
[11:03] (@lonecat) Er, will we?
[11:03] (@Joy) ah, right, erm...
[11:03] *** Quits: Kincaid (Please do not press that button again)
[11:04] (@Joy) scratch that idea :-)
[11:04] (@lonecat) I thought they'd all gone by that stage
[11:04] (@Corinne) do we have to show the floor in that bit? could be sitting in a waterproof box :)
[11:05] : Corinne: No, but we have to tip the glasses/decander/whatever *over*
[11:05] *** Joins: Kincaid (~Karl@modem-610.munger.dialup.pol.co.uk)
[11:05] (@lonecat) ahh
[11:05] (Kincaid) gah.
[11:05] (Kincaid) what did I miss?
[11:05] : See Query
[11:05] (@Corinne) what I'm saying is that the floor could be covered with waterproof material, and not get any on the carpet.
[11:06] (@Joy) it's going tobe difficult getting anyone with a table suitable for that sce to let you tip water all over it.
[11:06] (@eric) water can be done without making too much mess...at least on stage it can...so I assume it can be done on a film set
[11:06] (@lonecat) Tablecloth?
[11:06] (@Corinne) table cloth and a thorough drying afterwards?
[11:06] (@lonecat) It doesn't matter what's underneath then
[11:06] (@Joy) Ice bucket and plunging hands in gets round that issue of course
[11:07] (@eric) shoot the hand and the receptacle...then shoot close up of the water hitting the victim
[11:07] (@David) It's called "Creative Editing" :-)
[11:08] : eric: There isn't any water hitting the victim shot. The actors "accidentally" knock over the receptacles so they get wet
[11:08] (@eric) I'm more worried about the effect of costume...expensive furniture can be covered up for the crucial shots
[11:09] (@Joy) I think frantic waving of fans, or accidental dropping of ise could serve the same purpose, and ice is fakable
[11:09] (@eric) Nick...it stillcan be broken into the same two shots
[11:09] (@Joy) s/ise/ice/
[11:09] (@Joy) cubic and clear and comess out of an ice-bucket, = ice
[11:10] (@lonecat) There's lots of places you can buy glass/plastic ice
[11:10] : Kay, I shall leave that to the direction committie
[11:10] (@David) This is why tricky scenes such as this one get storyboarded - so that logistics like "can we shoot this here" and "remember - the light source is from here" are nutted out long before much else.
[11:10] (@Joy) I'll have a word with the parents, no promises, but if they can't do it, they might have an idea of who else could.
[11:10] (@eric) ordinary ice will do...just has to be swept up between scenes so it doesn't melt all over the place...
[11:11] *** Aquarion sets mode: +oo Kincaid Supermous
[11:11] (@eric) ...it's all likely to happen during a sequence of quck cuts rather than a long slow langourous pan
[11:11] (@Supermous) there's a point, the storyboard
[11:12] (@Corinne) mary'll be doing it when theres a script for her to play with
[11:12] (@David) Well I'm expecting much of this film to b storyboarded
[11:12] (@David) ok
[11:12] (@Supermous) right
[11:13] (@Supermous) I just wondered if that had been covered yet
[11:13] (@Corinne) It's on the site somewhere :)
[11:13] (@Supermous) I'd missed it
[11:14] (@David) Once the storyboard is done, the director, producer, associate producer, DOP and floor manager sit down and work out precisely how they're going to go about bringing those ideas to life.
[11:15] (@Corinne) when will the storyboard have to get done? after successive redraftings, or straightaway?
[11:16] (@eric) Corinne...as soon as the screenplay is fairly "stable"
[11:16] (@David) This is perhaps the most thinking-intensive part of the whole production, and if done right, can make the whole project flow very smoothly. The storyboard is almost a second script - and gets upgraded with changes to the screenplay.
[11:16] (@Kincaid) brb, coffee
[11:16] (@eric) there isn't time for a lot of thinking whilst on set
[11:17] (@David) For instance - it wouldn't be inappropriate for Mary to commence storyboarding with what Thom's written already
[11:17] (@Corinne) but he's so flighty....bound to change his mind about it all again.
[11:18] (@David) but she'll need to liase with the director and Producer to put down on paper what both already see
[11:18] (@David) Cor: doesn't matter - it can be a two-way street
[11:18] (@eric) ...and referee between them :)
[11:19] (@David) i.e. Thom sees what Mary draws, and gains inspiration from that, changes things etc. It's a flowing, creative process
[11:19] (@Thomas) cor: i know it's an awful question... but how close is he?
[11:19] (@Thomas) to a first draft, at least?
[11:19] (@Corinne) couldn't say...he's taking a progressive approach to scriptwriting.
[11:20] (@Thomas) um?
[11:20] (@Corinne) ie. doing lots of different bits then fitting them together.
[11:20] (@Thomas) ah.. ok
[11:20] (@David) Thomas: my feeling is about another 6 weeks
[11:20] (@eric) about two foot is favourite...less strain on the arms from there
[11:20] (@Kincaid) b
[11:20] (@Corinne) david: sounds about right.
[11:20] (@Corinne) eric: about that too :)
[11:21] (@David) eric: well, someone had to say it :-)
[11:21] (@eric) just doing my job, David :)
[11:21] (@eric) I know my role in life :)
[11:21] (@Corinne) so, the job of a director is to complete all the puns that "have to be said"?
[11:21] (@eric) yep
[11:22] (@eric) never knowingly miss a gag
[11:22] (@David) Aargh
[11:22] (@Corinne) ?
[11:22] (@David) :-)
[11:23] : Any objecttions to moving on, moving up,
[11:23] : (Rawhide)
[11:23] * Joy throws a gag at eric, immediately followed by handcuffs, a riding crop and a bullwhip
[11:23] (@Corinne) ...
[11:23] (@Corinne) eric: suits you.
[11:23] * eric catches gag...misses the rest
[11:23] (@Joy) and cheerily waves g'bye
[11:23] (@Thomas) night joy
[11:23] (@Corinne) bye joy :)
[11:24] : Night Joy
[11:24] * eric waves
[11:24] (@Joy) work to do sorry. bbl to see if you've finished.
[11:24] (@Joy) *gone*
[11:24] *** Quits: Joy (ceci n'est pas une quit message)
[11:24] : II: Audition Stuff
[11:24] (@Corinne) III, I think you'll find ;)
[11:24] (@eric) reminds me...I better put some music on...I've got a lot of CDs to listen to, looking for particular lyrics
[11:24] : III then :-)
[11:24] : Auditon Saturday
[11:25] (@eric) who will be there?
[11:25] * eric raises hand
[11:25] (@Corinne) got any response from the various posts at all?
[11:25] * Aquarion also raises hands
[11:25] : Corinne: Many Many Lots
[11:25] * lonecat raises a paw
[11:25] (@Corinne) really? ooo
[11:25] : One for Durham
[11:25] : None for Nottingham
[11:25] (@Corinne) wow :)
[11:26] : One for London
[11:26] (@Corinne) thousands for london, eh?
[11:26] (@Corinne) wow.
[11:26] (@eric) may have two more for Nottingham...sis and bro in law
[11:26] * Simon will try to appear to put faces to names. He's not an actor though...
[11:26] (@Corinne) we've got another two for london.
[11:26] (@eric) ...and they are both built like opera singers
[11:26] : And 10 unhelpful people who just wanted more info
[11:26] (@David) I'll be there in spirit </pathetic attempt to be helpful>
[11:26] (@Corinne) eric: do they know about the books?
[11:27] (@Supermous) I'll turn up to the Nottingham one, just in case someone needs crash space, but that is all i'll be doing. perhaps I'll drink something too.
[11:27] (@eric) Corinne...yep...and were in an amateur Guards Guards
[11:27] (@eric) OK...Durham...also call it a meet
[11:27] (@Corinne) yep
[11:28] (@Corinne) and post an [F] saying so.
[11:28] : eric: I'm getting quite a few requests for ideas of the London dates/times
[11:28] (@Corinne) with directions.
[11:28] (@eric) somebody should email MP and any other York peeps
[11:28] (@Corinne) urgh...
[11:28] : Corinne: We all must make sacrfices for our art
[11:28] (@Corinne) even for the sake of those with none?
[11:29] (@eric) London I'm hoping to get hold of IC Dramsoc on Monday lunchtime...I've got a back up if not
[11:29] (@Thomas) and they'll be able to set you with rooms or somesuch?
[11:30] (@eric) ...haven't had a lot of time this week
[11:30] (@eric) Thomas...I'd like to get access to the concert hall
[11:30] (@Thomas) ooh,, ok
[11:30] (@eric) it would be nice to use a thespy environment
[11:31] (@eric) ...plus I want to get in with them so we can use it to shoot the flying stuff
[11:31] * Kincaid will be going to the Notts audition
[11:32] (@Thomas) as weill i
[11:32] (@eric) I still want to hold a final audition at CCDE...it's the place we are guaranteed a good turn out
[11:32] (@David) I'm going to have to sign off - this pooter has to do some serious CGI rendering now, and I don't want to tax its poor little processor any more than strictly necessary.
[11:33] (@eric) 'k David have a good one
[11:33] (@Supermous) Kincaid: bring the whistles, please!
[11:33] (@David) Anybody want me for any questions before I go?
[11:33] (@Thomas) see ya david
[11:33] (@Supermous) bye David
[11:34] : Bye David
[11:34] (@Corinne) bye david
[11:34] : Right. I will attempt to be at Notts, I *will* be in both Durham an London at appropriate times
[11:34] (@Kincaid) I'll also take my 35mm still camera, my tripods, and other gear
[11:35] (@Corinne) we'll try and make london, but it's not a sure thing.
[11:35] (@David) okbye
[11:35] (@Kincaid) seeya
[11:35] *** Quits: David (ShadowIRC 1.1b2 PPC)
[11:35] : Do we have access to a Video Camera for Durham?
[11:36] (@Simon) I could provide still camera for durham if necessary. Don't have tripod but could probably borrow. No video though.
[11:36] (@eric) video is essential
[11:36] (@eric) stills aren't important
[11:36] (@Thomas) well.. remind me, who's going to durham?
[11:36] (@eric) me
[11:36] (@lonecat) me
[11:37] (@Thomas) hmm...
[11:37] (@Corinne) we suck :)
[11:37] : Me :-)
[11:37] (@Corinne) can you get videos in time simon?
[11:37] (@Corinne) any actual auditionees?
[11:37] (@lonecat) me
[11:37] (@Thomas) could no-one borrow a video camera?
[11:37] (@lonecat) eeep
[11:38] (@Simon) not sure where from... don't know anyone with camera who knows me well enough to lend it!
[11:38] (@Thomas) i've got one.. but parents won't let me lend it out.. expensive bit of kit and all that :/
[11:38] (@Corinne) doesn't the uni have one it can lend out?
[11:38] (@eric) Thomas...come to Durham...only £20 return
[11:39] (@Thomas) day return?
[11:39] (@Simon) cor: not that I'm aware of. That doesn't mean there isn't... hmm, there is a film-making society, I could ask them?
[11:39] (@lonecat) book quickly
[11:39] (@eric) yep...GNER are doing a special for early June...have to book fast though
[11:39] (@Corinne) simon: go for it.
[11:40] (@Thomas) ok, ringing up to check now
[11:40] (@eric) you'll need to specify which train you catch...the journey is between 2and a half and 3 hours
[11:40] (@Thomas) irk.. :/
[11:41] (@eric) and you'll need to buy the tickets direct from GNER
[11:41] (@lonecat) You'll need stuff to do along the way
[11:41] (@lonecat) The journey is not exciting
[11:41] (@Simon) email sent.
[11:42] (@Simon) lc: it's quick though - only 3 hrs.
[11:42] (@Thomas) hmm.. cheapest is £31 apparently
[11:42] (@Kincaid) ueah but trains have one advantage, you can read pterry and meet your future SO
[11:42] (@eric) I'm planning on using it for a combination of sleep and planning...plus maybe breakfast :)
[11:42] (@lonecat) Durham is worth £31
[11:42] (@Simon) look out the window when nearly here, from the train is one of the best views of Durham!
[11:42] (@lonecat) If you have £31
[11:42] (@Corinne) and is there really, truly going to be anyone there?
[11:42] (@Thomas) breakfast? on a train? you making it yourself? ;)
[11:42] (@eric) Thomas...yep
[11:43] (@Thomas) fair enough
[11:43] (@eric) thta's inflation for you...£11 increase in a week...that's an annual increase of...
[11:44] (@eric) I don't want to think about it :(
[11:44] *** Corinne is now known as thom
[11:44] : Down from £180 last year!
[11:44] »»» thom is on IRC CtrlF1 whois; ShiftF1 query
[11:44] »»» thom is (Corinne@ppp-2-226.5800-12.access.uk.worldonline.com) and is not away
[11:44] * Simon found it cheaper to fly from Glasgow to london last year than get the train.
[11:44] (@eric) they quoted me £157 as the tsandard return fare
[11:45] : eric: Thats peek time
[11:45] : It's £75 for an open return off peak
[11:45] (@eric) and £46 for APEX
[11:45] : (£50 with railcard, which means buying a railcard *and* a ticket *still* saves you money)
[11:46] : I have never been organised enough to do Apex
[11:46] (@eric) but I think they make the actual prices up on the spot when you phone them
[11:46] (@Simon) apex sometimes costs more cos you can't use a railcard with it.
[11:46] (@Thomas) eric: they do... i got quote three different prices once...
[11:46] (@thom) hmm.. what's the latest you can book an apex?
[11:46] (@Simon) You have to know the name of the secret cheap ticket - something like "family economy super apex advance saver with extra bubblewrap"
[11:46] (@lonecat) Depends if they run out
[11:46] (@eric) thom...yesterday
[11:47] (@Thomas) i went for broke and said 'someone told me it was much cheaper earlier.. about £20.50' and they said 'oh, ok' and charged me that :)
[11:47] (@thom) yesterday? what, have they discontinued them ,then?
[11:47] (@eric) Simon...or flirt outrageously with the person on the other end of the phone
[11:47] (@Simon) it's a 1 week in advance thing I think.
[11:47] (@eric) good work Thomas :)
[11:47] (@thom) yeah, but i'm tinkin' for ccde... the auditions are a bust for us, money-wise.
[11:47] (@Simon) eric: you've never met me.... ;-) (then again nor has the person on the phone)
[11:48] (@eric) Simon...that's it
[11:48] (@eric) Simon...think up your jokes before you call
[11:48] (@Simon) thom: prices are more sensible on national express, if you can cope with 12 hrs ona bus....
[11:49] (@Thomas) eric: not now.. cheapest is still £31.. but it was good at the time :)
[11:49] (@eric) OK...so we have video for Durham?
[11:49] (@lonecat) thom: are you in Oxford?
[11:49] : And if you can, you need heads examining
[11:49] (@thom) simon: i've done the bus thing... no more!
[11:49] (@thom) susan: cornwall.
[11:49] (@Simon) not so far - i have asked Silver Screen Soc, but don't count on it... - if any other ideas, go with them.
[11:49] (@lonecat) eep
[11:49] (@Simon) thom: yep, gf tried to get home to cornwall that way,a nd had to direct the bus driver to Truro... (he's never been W of plymouth)
[11:49] (@Thomas) i don't know... for some reason i get the feeling next saturday is booked.. but i can'tr remember why...
[11:50] (@eric) I've got a whole set of workshop ideas worked out specifically to video them :(
[11:50] * thom got nat express from nodnol to truro, no probs.
[11:50] (@Thomas) I'll see what I can do...
[11:50] * eric did nat express from nodnol to truro...with only minor cramps and back strain
[11:51] (@Thomas) yuck.. coach
[11:51] * Simon Simon tried that in reverse after eclipse.... not nice.
[11:51] (@Thomas) nice and cheap.. but you get what you pay for :/
[11:51] (@eric) don't anyone sing it
[11:51] * Aquarion can't do coaches. Not least because it takes 4 hours by train, and 8 by coach to get home
[11:52] (@Thomas) ah, the eclipse.. just about every damn person i know was down there for it... despite them all saying they weren't going to be.. it was all' oh, last minute split-decision thing' :)
[11:52] : And almost 2 hours by plane.
[11:52] * thom still has a coach card, though. which could reduce the prices.. but from truro to elmswell? erm...
[11:52] (@Thomas) found out we were all about a mile from eachother
[11:52] (@thom) thomas: you missed nowt. i was in plymouth.. ooh, sky went a bit dark.. ooh, impressive. pah.
[11:52] (@thom) oh, you were there.
[11:52] (@Thomas) yup
[11:52] (@Thomas) sat on a hillside in totnes
[11:53] (@thom) totnes? i used to live there.
[11:53] (@eric) OK...more stuff
[11:53] (@Simon) thomas: if was somethign to do with realising friends had garden in line of totality and floor space! We did get a break in the clouds for a minute or too, I think it was worth it.
[11:53] (@Thomas) got up there.. looked up to the sky, spread my arms and shouted 'you can start now!' and it did.. :)
[11:53] (@thom) more stuff...? what's item... whatever...?
[11:53] (@Thomas) dunno who was impressed more.. friends with me or me :)
[11:54] (@eric) I have a regular from the chorus at the ENO who is also an experienced choreographer willing to do a workshop session or two with the cast or selections thereof
[11:54] (@lonecat) reports next
[11:54] : Indeed.
[11:54] : Raise hands all those with something to report
[11:55] : (FX: Aquarion places money down on outcome)
[11:55] (@eric) ...and I'm awaiting confirmation of somebody able to do some stage fighting and voice stuff at CCDE
[11:55] : Lotto!
[11:55] * lonecat raises a foot
[11:55] * lonecat falls over amusingly
[11:55] : *grin*
[11:56] * Aquarion also raises hand
[11:56] : lonecat?
[11:56] (@lonecat) I've talked to Chris
[11:56] : And?
[11:56] (@lonecat) He's calmed down enough to write his diary, and may actually be useful at some point
[11:57] (@lonecat) I've reminded him about the website, although he may have forgotten
[11:57] (@Thomas) calmed down? um?
[11:57] (@thom) all we need is a way to update the site once in a while.
[11:57] (@lonecat) His company died, he's had cashflow problems in a big way
[11:57] (@Thomas) ah... :/
[11:57] (@eric) ouch
[11:58] (@Kincaid) ick
[11:58] (@lonecat) He now has a job though
[11:58] (@Thomas) good-o
[11:58] (@lonecat) I'll try to persuade him to go to CCDE
[11:59] (@Thomas) he's a good bloke.. we don't want bad things happening to nice people like him
[12:00] (@Thomas) lc: that all?
[12:00] : Right
[12:01] (@Thomas) nick? your go, i feel
[12:01] : Due to outbreaks of stupidity in the far flung reaches of Sunderland, Nick will set up the bank account on Monday or Tuesday, depending on what happens in Uni on Mon.
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[12:01] (@MissSusan) re
[12:01] (@Thomas) ah...
[12:01] (@Thomas) re
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[12:02] (@Thomas) nick: when are you back in civilisation?
[12:02] : It would have happened Friday, except that, what with poking people for Identification from Cornwall and other regions of Here be Dragons
[12:02] *** MissSusan is now known as lonecat
[12:02] : Some stupid fishtank forgot to have *his* ID sent up :-)
[12:02] (@thom) d'oh.
[12:03] : Thomas: No, I'm getting it created here, and then I'll transfer it to somewhere else
[12:03] (@Thomas) yeah.. ok, but when generally?
[12:03] (@eric) good call Nick...do it :)
[12:04] : I'm back in the south on the 10th
[12:04] : Which is why I won't be here :-)
[12:04] (@Thomas) uh... ?
[12:04] (@lonecat) I'm back in the South in July
[12:04] : I won't be in the meeting because I'll be doing the six hour train journey
[12:04] (@Thomas) ah... ok
[12:04] : Er, *car* journey, this time.
[12:05] (@eric) I'm probably going to need an alarm phone call if I'm going to be here next week...will be getting back home v late
[12:05] (@Thomas) that makes more sense.. i was thinking.. nick.. without a pc? must be extreme...
[12:05] (@thom) righto, eric.
[12:05] (@Thomas) which reminds me.. eric, what is your mobile no. ?
[12:05] (@eric) but I should be here to do an audition report
[12:05] (@eric) no mobile
[12:05] (@eric) :)
[12:05] (@Thomas) what? not at all?
[12:06] (@Thomas) god, you freak
[12:06] (@eric) I work on a basis of being where I'm supposed to be and when I'm supposed to be...and if things need to change faster than that I'd probably screw it up anyway
[12:07] * Kincaid directs eric to cheapo Orange Pray-as-Yuog
[12:07] (@Thomas) fair enough
[12:07] * Kincaid directs eric to cheapo Orange Pray-as-Yugo
[12:07] (@Kincaid) :-)
[12:07] (@Thomas) cheap cars that talk to you?
[12:07] (@eric) cuts down on last minute stuff...and most last minute stuff is a mistake
[12:07] (@Kincaid) yep
[12:07] * thom has supposedly "cheapo" orange prepay... hah!
[12:07] (@thom) do you know how much they damn well cost???
[12:07] (@Thomas) SMS-ing.. the way of the world :)
[12:08] (@thom) ahhh.. sms is alright, but you make a call on one of them pre-pay buggers...
[12:08] (@Thomas) exactly.. which is why i don't
[12:08] (@Kincaid) 10p/min peak rate
[12:08] (@Thomas) i have 121 prepay
[12:08] (@lonecat) AOL
[12:09] (@Kincaid) I use mine mostly as a pager
[12:09] (@thom) kincaid: are you buying the £50 a time vouchers?
[12:09] (@Thomas) which has some freaky price plan.. first call is 50p a min.. then all other calls 2p a min or something.. i dunno
[12:09] * lonecat smells something burning and hopes her housemates are making toast
[12:09] (@Kincaid) yep
[12:09] (@lonecat) 30p, then 5p
[12:09] (@Thomas) lc: that the standard plan?
[12:09] * Aquarion has a contract phone
[12:09] (@lonecat) Yes
[12:09] (@Kincaid) anyway, where were we?
[12:10] (@Thomas) er... well.. had susan finished reporting?
[12:10] (@lonecat) yes
[12:10] (@lonecat) no
[12:10] (@lonecat) Someone needs to measure people at auditions
[12:11] (@Kincaid) ooh eer
[12:11] (@Thomas) goodness :)
[12:11] (@lonecat) I'll be doing Durham
[12:11] (@Thomas) aagh!
[12:12] (@Thomas) visual imagery... Susan Does Durham... from the makers of Debbie Does Dallas...
[12:12] (@lonecat) I'll make a list of what to measure
[12:12] (@Thomas) sorry.. sorry...
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[12:12] (@Thomas) yes, that coat.. the long black one.. thanks..
[12:12] (@lonecat) Mouse? Care to measure people?
[12:13] *** Kincaid1 is now known as Kincaid
[12:13] (@lonecat) I'm sure george would, but would anyone let her?
[12:13] (@Thomas) :)
[12:13] *** thom sets mode: +o Kincaid
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[12:16] (@Kincaid) erm, hellooo?
[12:16] (Tommo) bah
[12:17] : Hi
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[12:17] *** Tommo is now known as Thomas
[12:17] : [12:17] ¢ PING reply of 2.991 s from Kincaid
[12:18] (@Kincaid) erm, and?
[12:18] : I was wondering why you were Helloooing
[12:18] (@thom) hmm... well, looks like things are naturally rolling to an end.
[12:18] (@Kincaid) no-one was saying owt
[12:18] (@Simon) aob? I have two...
[12:19] : Okay, Right. Any Other Business?
[12:19] : Simon?
[12:19] (@Simon) 1. I appreciate that people may not have time to do full minutes - but any
[12:19] (@Simon) chance of slapping the logs on the web anyway? Cos those not IRCing are not
[12:19] (@Simon) getting what's going on...
[12:19] (@eric) big question...CCDE...do we want to hold stuff there...if so who contacts Elton?
[12:19] (@thom) that would be corinne
[12:19] : Simon: Yeah, I just keep forgetting to get it done
[12:20] : It Will Happen, probably today
[12:20] (@Simon) fari enough, thanks! I'm not trying to pester, I don't know anyone well enough for that.... we just seem to have to reiterate the idea of the preview every week...
[12:20] (@Supermous) oops, sorry, nature was shouting. Um... i can bring measuring tape
[12:21] (@lonecat) Cool :-)
[12:21] (@eric) OK...I'll email as sooon as I have confirmation from graham that he can make it to CCDE (ie that he's persuaded his anklebiter that camping might actually be fun)
[12:21] (@thom) hmmm.. don't people need to be *cast* before we start measurin' 'em up?
[12:21] (@Supermous) Soemone else will have to measure though.
[12:21] : thom: Birds with rocks, I think.
[12:22] (@lonecat) thom: it's the easiest place to get at them
[12:22] (@Supermous) thom: i don't see why
[12:22] (@thom) *shrug* just seems a bit pre-emptory, is all.
[12:22] (Thomas) thom: it saves time later
[12:22] (@eric) everyone who auditions will be cast...just a matter of deciding what as and whether they get any lines
[12:23] (@Simon) worth saying that in announces, to stop people feeling they aren't good enough to bother auditioning?
[12:23] (@lonecat) We're going to need plenty of extras
[12:23] (Thomas) hmm... but people who audition up noirth, aren't going to come all the way down to london for a non-speaking part... are they?
[12:25] (@eric) we will need extras on location
[12:25] (@lonecat) Depends how enthusiastic they are/if they actually live up north
[12:25] (@eric) and people will travel to meets...remember all crowd scenes will also be meets
[12:25] (Thomas) true.. true :)
[12:26] (Thomas) did we work out logistics of 1000 elephants club... specifically the 'club' bit of it?
[12:27] (@thom) we could get a clubhouse.
[12:27] (@Kincaid) inna tree?
[12:27] (Thomas) with cake?
[12:27] (@thom) ooh, ooh, anna password!
[12:27] (Thomas) an a secrfet song!
[12:27] (@Kincaid) a _secret_ password
[12:27] (Thomas) yup
[12:27] (Thomas) and and.. no girls!
[12:28] (@thom) no.. no homers!
[12:28] (@thom) (plural. we're allowed one)
[12:28] * lonecat quietly murders Thomas
[12:28] (Thomas) hom*er*s, right? ;)
[12:28] * Simon renames lonecat Suzie. (and hopes others are thinking of the same reference...)
[12:28] (@thom) yep, that's raaht, y'all.
[12:29] (@lonecat) erm..
[12:29] (@thom) which reference is that, then?
[12:29] (@lonecat) Simon?
[12:29] (@Simon) Calvin & Hobbes. An anti-girls treehouse club.
[12:29] (@thom) ahh.. yes, g.r.o.s.s.
[12:29] (@Simon) that's the one, i coulnd't remember the acronym.
[12:29] (@lonecat) ahh. Never read C&H in English
[12:29] (Thomas) simon and me thinking along the same lines :)
[12:29] * thom grabs presidential hat.
[12:30] (Thomas) bagsy get to be hobbes :)
[12:30] * Simon appoints Thomas First Tiger
[12:30] (@thom) supreme dictator for life!
[12:30] (Thomas) yes sir :)
[12:30] (@Simon) moving on...... ;-)
[12:30] (Thomas) yes...
[12:30] (Thomas) the club bit..
[12:31] (Thomas) how much are peeps paying.. are they going to be extras, etc
[12:31] (Thomas) that sort of thing?
[12:31] : Okay, The answer to that is: No.
[12:31] : That will be the meeting of the 24th, and it's primary topic
[12:31] (Thomas) ok.. good to know
[12:32] (@Simon) Second AOB - not sure if it's really appropriate, but here goes...
[12:32] (@Simon) 2. <plug>I have a show going on on the night of the durham
[12:32] (@Simon) audition - come see if you want. it's an original
[12:32] (@Simon) student-written script incorportating film elements. It may
[12:32] (@Simon) be good, I'm not sure yet (not seen many rehearsals).
[12:32] (@Simon) It's called "3", tagline "Let us into your head". Email for
[12:32] (@Simon) details, it's only 5 mins walk from audition venue.... </plug>
[12:32] (@Simon) Alternatively, the pub may be a more popular option ;-)
[12:32] : (10th is Audition, 17th is Auditon, 24th is That, unless Iceburgs)
[12:32] (@Simon) (play will probably finish about 9:30, so there's time for both)
[12:33] (Thomas) this Icebergs thing has become popular, i see :)
[12:33] (@Simon) lettuce?
[12:33] (Thomas) think titanic
[12:33] (@eric) Simon...last London train that isn't an overnight is 8.15pm...sorry :(
[12:34] (@Simon) oh well... :-(
[12:34] (@eric) but it should be added to further audition an nouncements as a "meet feature"
[12:35] : Right
[12:35] (@Simon) OK, I must go I think...
[12:35] : Does anyone want to post that announce?
[12:35] : Bye Simon, have fun :-)
[12:36] (@lonecat) We have to be out of VT by 6pm, so start the meet then I guess
[12:36] * thom goes also... 'bye folks.
[12:36] *** Quits: Simon (Tech rehearsal this afternoon...)
[12:37] : Bye thom
[12:37] (Thomas) bye thom..
[12:37] ««« thom left IRC (was on 53 min 10 s) CtrlF1 whowas
[12:37] ««« thom was (Corinne@ppp-2-226.5800-12.access.uk.worldonline.com)
[12:37] *** Quits: thom (i've never got over that, you know. well, i did. but i used a ladder.)
[12:38] (@Supermous) 16th, not 17th
[12:39] : SM: The meeting about it is the 17th though
[12:39] (@eric) Susan...can you email me details of where I need to go from the station in Durham?
[12:40] : eric: I'll forward the directions she sent me :-)
[12:41] : Done
[12:42] (Thomas) So.. meeting adhourned?
[12:42] : Indeed
[12:42] (Thomas) adjourned, rather
[12:42] (Thomas) *bangs gavel*
[12:42] (Thomas) possibly see some of you on saturday
[12:42] : Ooooh, Not yet
[12:42] (Thomas) damn
[12:42] : We need a volenteer to chair the meeting next week
[12:43] (@eric) thanks Nick
[12:43] : Hmm?
[12:44] (Thomas) audition is the 9th, yes?
[12:44] (@lonecat) Yes
[12:44] (Thomas) good
[12:44] (Thomas) hmm... what time is the audition starting?
[12:45] : 2pm
[12:45] (Thomas) sorry if this has been done befoer
[12:45] (@lonecat) 2ish
[12:45] (Thomas) oh good
[12:45] (@eric) 2pm
[12:45] (Thomas) plenty of time
[12:45] (Thomas) damn early last trains
[12:45] (@eric) we ought to meet up at least half an hour before
[12:45] (@lonecat) We're booked from 1:30
[12:45] (@eric) I should be there by one
[12:46] (Thomas) eric: 9:40 train?
[12:47] (@eric) yep
[12:47] (Thomas) see you there :)
[12:47] (@eric) :)
[12:47] (@eric) I thought the 8am one was being a bit ambitious
[12:48] (Thomas) 8am? what happens then? sounds... early :)
[12:48] (@eric) it's the train before
[12:48] (Thomas) train before is 9:30
[12:49] (@Kincaid) right, we done?
[12:49] (@eric) anyway...addiction calls...I'm out of cigs...Mr Patel's everything you forgot to buy in the supermarket Emporium is calling
[12:49] (Thomas) well.. still haven't worked out a chair
[12:49] (Thomas) I'll be a chair, nick
[12:49] (@Kincaid) you?
[12:50] (@eric) Thomas...get volunteers on arrival...David is a good bet
[12:50] (Thomas) well.. chaise longue
[12:50] (@eric) Joy has chaired these before
[12:50] (Thomas) ok...
[12:50] *** Parts: Kincaid (~Karl@modem-66.kahuna.dialup.pol.co.uk)
[12:50] (Thomas) well, do we have agenda?
[12:50] : Okay, Right. They might want to know in advance, however :-)
[12:50] : I: Apologies
[12:50] : II: The Audition
[12:50] : III:Status Reports
[12:51] : IV: Any Other Business
[12:51] : V: Item Added for Humourous Effect
[12:51] (@Supermous) 1. Take over the world 2. Make a movie, 3. Cheese, biscits, coffee.
[12:51] (Thomas) 4. brandy
[12:51] (@Supermous) 5. Brandy
[12:51] (@Supermous) 6. Brandy
[12:52] (@Supermous) 7. Fall over.
[12:52] (Thomas) 8. Sleep
[12:52] (Thomas) right.. all done
[12:52] (Thomas) *bangs gavel some more*
[12:52] (Thomas) see you all soon :)
[12:52] (@Supermous) who's Gavel?
[12:52] (Thomas) ssh :)
[12:52] (Thomas) my finnish bit on the side :)
[12:53] (@Supermous) right, I'm going.
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[12:53] (@eric) bye all
[12:53] *** Quits: eric (Leaving)
[12:53] (Thomas) be seeing you
[12:53] *** Parts: Thomas (alpha@host213-122-140-87.btinternet.com)
[12:58] (@lonecat) Oh, they've gone
[12:59] : Yes :-)
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Session Start: Sun Jun 03 18:05:09 2001
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[18:16] (@lonecat) *wave*
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Session Start: Sun Jun 03 20:25:21 2001
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