Session Start: Sun Jul 22 09:38:09 2001
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[09:50] <05Corinne> heya jensy :)
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[09:58] <05Jens> hmm, attendance seems good today...
[09:58] *** Jens changes topic to 'The 1 000 Elephants Club: because 999 just didn't cut the mustard'
[09:58] <05Corinne> so far
[09:59] <05Corinne> how can you cut mustard anyway?
[09:59] <05hippo> is the meeting at 10 or 11 ?
[09:59] <05Corinne> 10
[09:59] <05Corinne> people usually don't turn up till 10 minutes after though
[09:59] <05hippo> *nod* thought so
[09:59] <05Jens> With a spoon?
[10:00] <05Jens> [there is no spoon]
[10:00] <05Corinne> cutting usually predisposes a knife
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[10:01] <05Corinne> hey patrick
[10:01] <05Turtle> hey all
[10:02] <05Corinne> has everyone here voted whether they want dvd or not?
[10:02] <05hippo> yup
[10:02] <05Turtle> oops - not. Is that on the website?
[10:03] <05Corinne> yeah :)
[10:03] <05Jens> oops - not. Is that on the website?
[10:03] * Turtle wanders over...
[10:03] <05Corinne> the magic of cut-and-paste
[10:04] <05Turtle> can I make some more suggestions for the website?
[10:05] <05Corinne> sure you can
[10:05] <05Turtle> I've talked to eelco, and volunteered to be co-Director of Photography, so can you put me up as such.
[10:05] <05Corinne> ok then :)
[10:05] <05Corinne> do you want your email address put up?
[10:06] <05Turtle> as patrick@lspace.org, yes.
[10:06] <05Corinne> great :)
[10:07] <05Turtle> also, I am now the proud owner of a mini-DV camera ;)
[10:07] <05Corinne> cool :)
[10:07] <05hippo> may I enquire which model ?
[10:07] <05Corinne> how do you spell your last name? Dersjant? something like that?
[10:07] <05Turtle> you may. It's a JVC gr-dvl 157
[10:08] <05hippo> *nod*
[10:08] <05Turtle> corinne: got it in one. I'm already on the list, in the research section.
[10:08] <05Corinne> ah right, I'm so dumb :)
[10:08] <05Turtle> no worries ;)
[10:11] <05Turtle> So, we're off to shoot granny's house in sweden then <g>
[10:11] <05Corinne> <g> if you can move for the tourists
[10:11] <05hippo> there goes the expense budget :)
[10:11] <05Corinne> don't talk to me about budget :)
[10:11] <05Corinne> well, until it comes up on the agenda, anyway.
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[10:12] <05eric> hi all
[10:12] <05Corinne> turtle: you are now co-director of photography
[10:12] <05Kincaid> erggh
[10:13] *** Corinne sets mode: +o Kincaid
[10:13] *** Corinne sets mode: +o eric
[10:13] <05Corinne> hiya both
[10:13] <05Turtle> corinne: thanks. I'll mail you something cvish.
[10:13] <05Corinne> great
[10:13] <05Corinne> mm..cheese.
[10:13] <05Jens> Oooh, people
[10:13] <05Corinne> what you mean is, 
[10:14] <05Corinne> "oo, eric"
[10:14] <05Corinne> say it like it is
[10:14] <05eric> it like it is
[10:14] <05Jens> But Kincaid is people, innit?
[10:14] <05Corinne> so were the 4 people here already
[10:14] <05Corinne> anyway
[10:14] <05Corinne> eric: well done
[10:15] <05eric> I was only following orders
[10:15] <05Kincaid> Nick and Susan are in Cambridge
[10:15] <05Corinne> turtle: hey, you can't vote for both, that's cheating!
[10:16] <05Turtle> But I *want* both ;)
[10:16] <05Kincaid> no, /me is asleep
[10:16] <05Corinne> right, so that's one for dvd then :)
[10:16] <05Jens> Corinne: so why did you use check boxes?
[10:16] <05Turtle> well, if you put it like that...
[10:16] <05Corinne> damn, I forgot to put the little thing in that says you can only tick one.
[10:18] <05Corinne> anyway, anyone got any ideas as to what the first item on the agendaaaaa should be?
[10:19] <05eric> item 1: decide the agenda - item 2: meeting - item 3: AOB
[10:21] <05Jens> It should be type=radio, not type=checkbox, with the same name but different value attribs. HTH
[10:21] <05Corinne> I know
[10:21] <05Jens> eric: clever.
[10:21] <05Corinne> already
[10:21] <05eric> any proposals for item 1?
[10:22] <05Jens> B*udget, Status reports; how about not having a three hour argument about memberships as the first item
[10:22] <05Turtle> can I just say I like the ccde audition thingie *a* *lot*. It's cool.
[10:23] <05eric> may I suggest...SamSmith's Oatmeal Stout...ban it now!
[10:23] <05hippo> <g>
[10:23] * hippo has to visit the supermarket after this meeting : he might take that as a recommendation
[10:24] <05Corinne> "rule #1: no ranting!"
[10:24] <05eric> be warned Mark...I stopped drinking over 12 hours ago and I'm nowhere near sober
[10:25] <05hippo> I had a bottle of chilean sauvingnon blanc last night (as some on #afp may have realised) feel fine atm :)
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[10:25] <05eric> ...but I did get offered two jobs on double my current salary :)
[10:25] <05Turtle> cool - can I get one ;)
[10:25] <05Corinne> lucky sod :)
[10:25] <05Corinne> me too, me too!
[10:25] <05hippo> me too :)
[10:26] <05eric> you need to be able to promote a web site in Japanese
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[10:26] <05Kincaid> regrrrr
[10:26] <05hippo> is that a Japanese web site or other language site promoted in Japanese ?
[10:27] <05eric> hippo in in Japanese
[10:27] <05eric> anyhow...seriously...item 1 on teh agenda should be CCDE, what do we have to prepare
[10:27] <05eric> ?
[10:28] <05Turtle> eric: good point.
[10:28] <05Corinne> exactly what you've said on the tin :)
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[10:30] *** Jens changes topic to 'Agenda: *1)CCDE*  2) Budget  3)  Status Reports  4) AOB'
[10:30] <05Corinne> we should have a small list of things to do when the audience refuses to participate
[10:31] <05eric> when the audience refuses to participate...1: wing it - 2: busk it - 3: there is no number 3
[10:31] <05Corinne> erm, but it doesn't have to *be* that way.
[10:31] <05eric> :)
[10:31] <05Corinne> some prepared material might help things go more smoothly.
[10:31] <05Corinne> just a little.
[10:31] <05eric> yep...I'm all for that
[10:32] <05eric> who's participating atm
[10:32] <05eric> ?
[10:32] <05Corinne> every person who wants to take part should bring a prop of their choice.
[10:32] <05Turtle> you'll need camera. I do camera ;)
[10:32] <05Corinne> and even if they arent, it'll help if they do.
[10:32] * hippo immodestly offers his Hamlet parody, but not necessarily reading it
[10:33] <05Corinne> and a couple of battery powered microphones might be good, incase of failures and going on the fiasco of sound that was Whose disc last year.
[10:33] <05eric> I'll do anything needs doing..except being Cohen
[10:33] <05Corinne> eric: you're mc, this is canon :)
[10:33] <05eric> :)
[10:34] <05Corinne> so, microphones - has anyone got such a beast, or know people who do?
[10:34] <05eric> wish I still had my stripy blazer
[10:34] <05eric> best without mics...there are too many things that can go wrong...far bettter to simply be loud
[10:34] <05Turtle> if we do it in the bottom barn, doesn't elton have a PA with microphone there already we can use?
[10:35] <05Kincaid> spare batteries are a must as well
[10:35] <05Corinne> one microphone. that didn't work very well.
[10:35] <05Corinne> the acoustics aren't exactly the best in the barn, even fantastic voice projection gets lost.
[10:36] <05eric> it's easier to teach people to project their voices than to teach good microphone technique
[10:36] <05Kincaid> for it was an bastard, like the step
[10:36] <05Corinne> oh, and you've got time to do that?
[10:36] <05Corinne> go on then, make my day.
[10:36] <05eric> and we use the accoustics not work against them...do the stuff people should hear right at the front and take the opportunity to whisper amongst ourselves at the back
[10:37] <05Corinne> it doesn't *work*. didn't you see whose disc?
[10:37] <05Corinne> obviously not.
[10:37] <05eric> dead easy...I can get people projecting OK within half an hour
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[10:37] <05Jens> hi david
[10:37] <05Corinne> even with the microphone on you could hardly hear you and gid doing your little solo numbers either.
[10:37] <05David> Hello everyone
[10:37] <05eric> I didn't see whose disc
[10:37] <05eric> hi David
[10:37] <05Turtle> hi david
[10:38] <05eric> what time are we on...when do festivities start and when are people arriving?
[10:38] <05Kincaid> it was hard to hear near the back
[10:38] <05Corinne> then you can't comment. you haven't got half an hour to teach people voice projection, so if we can, we get mikes.
[10:38] <05Corinne> thom and I won't be there till 5.
[10:38] <05Corinne> alistair wants to do the show, btw, you'll be glad to hear.
[10:38] <05eric> I'll be at the station at 4
[10:39] <05eric> excellent :)
[10:39] <05Turtle> eric: you the lifter that needs to be picked up?
[10:39] <05eric> prolly :)
[10:40] <05David> Word
[10:40] <05Corinne> ok
[10:41] <05eric> when are we on?
[10:42] <05Corinne> about 6? possibly a little later.
[10:42] <05eric> because we need to set up a pre-meet place and time
[10:43] <05eric> OK...so 5.30pm...at the catering van?
[10:43] <05Turtle> sounds good.
[10:43] <05David> Erm, right. I've been (almost literally) on another planet for the last fortnight. From the dribs and drabs of data I have come across, I understand there's going to be a song-and-dance routine by the 1000 hephelump club at CCDE. Correct?
[10:44] <05eric> yeppers
[10:44] <05David> Hokay. Is it going to be an excerpt of M or is it going to be a stand-alone job?
[10:44] <05eric> how is planet Ossywood?
[10:45] <05David> Bloody tiring but looking *really* good...
[10:45] <05eric> stand alone
[10:45] <05eric> excellent
[10:45] <05David> Subject?
[10:45] <05Corinne> http://afpmovie.orcon.net.nz/ccde.html
[10:45] <05David> Ta.
[10:46] <05David> Eric: Yup.
[10:46] <05Corinne> so, anyone here actually read the mailing list then?
[10:46] <05David> Eric: Very
[10:46] <05hippo> of course
[10:46] <05Turtle> yes, definitely
[10:47] <05Corinne> sorry, that was a bit too general ;)
[10:47] <05David> Cor: I've got a pile of email longer than I care to consider. Catch-up for me is about 6 weeks away
[10:47] <05David> As for the URL you just posted: PHWOAH!
[10:47] <05Corinne> fine :)
[10:47] <05Jens> corinne: actually, not at the moment. It's going to a mailbox I can't read from here.
[10:47] <05Jens> (Don't remember the password...)
[10:47] <05Corinne> jens: oops :)
[10:48] <05Jens> are there archives somewhere?
[10:48] <05Corinne> david: phwoah?
[10:48] <05David> Wot a bluddy good idea!
[10:48] <05Corinne> there should be, I'll have a look on aquarionics.
[10:49] * eric bows
[10:49] <05eric> I would like to thank thom and Aki without whom the idea would have been...
[10:49] <05eric> utter crap
[10:49] <05eric> Ali
[10:49] <05Corinne> Thom just said that he agrees we should have mikes, so now that its official, someone can get onto it.
[10:50] <05eric> who is doing the PA at CCDE?
[10:50] <05Jens> who's this "someone" to whom you refer?
[10:50] <05Corinne> anyone, really :)
[10:51] <05Corinne> someone with contacts and/or friends :)
[10:51] <05Jens> Oh... you mean the anyone who's propensity for not getting things done is even greater than my own?
[10:51] <05eric> I'm not sure I know anyone that will lend me mics to keep in a tent over the weekend
[10:51] <05Corinne> eric: this thing has really got to have *pace*.  Passing the microphone from hand to hand slows it down enormously.
[10:52] <05eric> yep
[10:52] <05Corinne> therefore, the PA just isn't enough.
[10:52] <05eric> mic from hand to hand is out of the question
[10:52] <05eric> but the question is how many inputs can the existing PA handle
[10:52] <05Corinne> If I had money i'd try and find stuff out, but this is cornwall for a start, there are no massive hifi departments.
[10:53] <05Corinne> elton seems to be on holiday still, but I can try and ask glenn.
[10:53] <05David> Are you referring to mics for stage performers?
[10:53] <05Corinne> david: yeah.
[10:53] <05eric> if you could
[10:53] <05Corinne> I'd bring my amp, but it's too heavy.
[10:53] <05David> Well, you have those body mics which go through a central receiving unit that can then be patched through whatever PA system is there already
[10:53] <05eric> needs to be 100watts plus
[10:53] <05Corinne> hmm, the band will have amps.
[10:54] <05Corinne> if we can borrow them...
[10:54] <05hippo> on the Friday ??
[10:54] <05Corinne> I have a microphone myself.
[10:54] <05eric> David...question is what they will cost to hire
[10:54] <05David> body mics are cheap to hire coz they're pretty cheap to buy
[10:54] <05Turtle> but the band is on on saturday night, iirc, so they'll probably arrive just shortly before their gig.
[10:54] <05eric> I'll look into it during the week
[10:54] <05Corinne> wish I could bring the car.
[10:54] <05David> The best ones are those that transmit on FM radio - you then simply tune in on an ordinary radio
[10:55] <05David> FM is used as its range is typically weaker than AM
[10:55] <05Turtle> I will bring my car, which gives us some room to (reasonably) safely store equipment.
[10:55] <05eric> how many performers do we have lined up
[10:55] <05David> and there's areas on the FM band typically set aside for such usage
[10:55] <05Corinne> who here volunteers?
[10:55] <05Corinne> we've got eric, alistair, nick and thom, atm.
[10:56] <05eric> I can't afford to hire them though...going to be a VERY tight month...
[10:56] <05eric> just had to spend £400 on new specs
[10:56] <05hippo> ouch
[10:56] <05Corinne> they'd better be worth it
[10:56] <05Corinne> thom just spent a tenner on some new ones - they don't have to cost :)
[10:57] <05eric> which is better than having to spend £10 on a white stick I suppose
[10:57] <05David> Urk
[10:57] <05eric> they do if you need varifocal lenses
[10:57] <05eric> I'm now officially both short sighted and long sighted
[10:57] <05Corinne> poor thing
[10:58] <05David> yuck - can't be fun
[10:58] <05Corinne> what are they, prada?
[10:58] <05eric> frames are cheapo...but the lenses cost over £350
[10:59] <05Corinne> you should change your optician.
[10:59] <05Corinne> specsavers do them inclusive
[10:59] <05eric> was the cheapest quote I got from the three I tried
[10:59] <05David> I know a felloe here who has a whole pile of A/V gear - he may have body mics. I can ask him and if he does, I'll whip 'em on over
[11:00] <05Corinne> dunno if they'll get here on time now, david.  and we'd need instructions on how to tune em too :)
[11:00] <05eric> I've never used body mics
[11:00] <05David> Sorry - what's the time factor here?
[11:00] <05eric> 18 days or so
[11:00] <05eric> 10 not 18
[11:01] <05Corinne> yep.
[11:01] <05Kincaid> two weeks
[11:01] <05David> Time enough (72 hrs on a plane - 48 hrs to learn how to use them ... piece of cake
[11:01] <05Corinne> won't postage be rather hefty?
[11:02] <05David> using the mics is easy. Sheesh - I helped set them up during high school plays
[11:02] <05David> Postage? Probably not - at least not if I leave the batteries out (4 x AAs each)
[11:02] <05Jens> I've used them... it was pretty much plug and play, but getting the egressing actors to avoid talking before they were switched off was a prob
[11:02] <05Corinne> how long do they last?
[11:02] <05David> About 4 hours IIRC
[11:02] <05Corinne> should be fine
[11:02] <05eric> Jens...easy in this case...nobody leaves the stage
[11:03] <05Jens> exactly
[11:03] <05David> Designed on the basis that concerts etc dn't go for much longer than that
[11:03] <05eric> I've got 4 rechargeables for my Cd player :)
[11:03] <05eric> so that is one mic sorted
[11:04] <05Corinne> right, Props. everyone should bring a hat.
[11:04] <05Corinne> or something.
[11:04] <05David> I can't make any promises - the owner's not answering his phone atm, so leave it with me. If you don't hear from me by Wed next week, it
[11:04] <05David> it's likely not happening
[11:04] <05eric> everyone should bring a hat anyway...keep the sun off your head
[11:04] <05Corinne> david: ok, thanks.
[11:04] <05Jens> Sun? Don't believe you. I've been to .uk, I 'ave...
[11:04] <05David> BTW - ho many mics would you need?
[11:05] <05eric> 6?
[11:05] <05eric> 8?
[11:05] <05Jens> 42?
[11:05] <05Corinne> 8 - in case of accidents :)
[11:05] <05Kincaid> got burned lots last year :-)
[11:05] * Corinne must remember to *use* the suncream she packs.
[11:05] <05David> You're having 8 speaking parts on stage at one time?
[11:05] <05Corinne> david: gotta plan for malfunctions.
[11:06] <05eric> Jens...what is 6 times 7...and can you switch your precognition off please?
[11:06] <05David> OK
[11:06] <05David> Eric: LOL :-)
[11:06] <05Corinne> and having a spare set of four means the change of actors will go smoother.
[11:06] <05Jens> eric: it strikes me that body mics would be pretty awful for tag wossnames
[11:06] <05Corinne> tag wossnames?
[11:06] <05eric> that's why I don't like mics for improv
[11:07] <05Corinne> we *need* mics, ok.
[11:07] <05Corinne> live with it. or something.
[11:07] <05Jens> choir mics around/over the stage might be bettter, though
[11:07] <05Corinne> why do I always have the feeling I should turn up to these meetings with a whip.
[11:07] <05Jens> mmm, whips
[11:08] <05Kincaid> kinky
[11:08] <05David> Corinne: don't forget the chair
[11:08] <05Corinne> well, if you've got stands, mics and enough amps to plug em in, fine.
[11:08] <05Kincaid> argh, no, the images!!
[11:08] <05Corinne> *grin*
[11:08] <05eric> I'll bring a notepad so that we can write messages to each other rather than whisper
[11:09] <05Corinne> right, we've established we need mics, so lets all look into it to the best of our ability.
[11:09] <05Jens> quite,
[11:09] <05Turtle> corinne: if you have a whip, bring it. Cohen witha hat anna whip - looks good ;)
[11:09] <05Corinne> and report back at the next meeting.
[11:09] <05Jens> Anything CCDEish that's no about mics?
[11:09] <05Corinne> Props!
[11:09] * Jens won't be here next week, BTW
[11:09] <05Corinne> for the third time :)
[11:09] <05eric> ...and all "internal" communication will have to go via me...that will cut down on any extraneous stuff reaching the audience
[11:10] <05David> And pleeeeeeeease *somebody* videotape the bloody thing, willya?
[11:10] <05Jens> eric: make up some rules and point them out in the day.
[11:10] <05Turtle> david: I'll bring my mini-dv ;)
[11:10] <05Jens> I belive Thomas was going to... if he *gasp* gets there on time
[11:10] <05eric> Jens...we just tell him we are on at 4pm
[11:10] <05Kincaid> what about sound?
[11:10] <05David> Well, tell him the show starts 3 hours before it really does :-P
[11:10] <05Jens> eric: only one hour?
[11:11] <05Kincaid> will the camera be able to get the sound? or should we record from the amp?
[11:11] <05David> Always record to camera from the amp
[11:11] <05Turtle> I have no plug for external mikes, unfortunately.
[11:11] <05David> PLUS backup audio recording onto tape
[11:11] <05Kincaid> I have minidisc
[11:12] <05eric> OK...Kincaid...you are recording sound
[11:12] <05Jens> settled... more on CCDE?
[11:12] <05Kincaid> fair doos
[11:12] <05Jens> other than reprops?
[11:12] <05Corinne> do I have to shout?
[11:12] <05eric> yep
[11:12] <05Kincaid> what?
[11:12] <05eric> prolly
[11:13] *** Jens sets mode: +n
[11:13] *** Jens sets mode: +t
[11:13] *** Jens sets mode: -t
[11:13] *** Jens sets mode: +t
[11:13] <05Jens> OK... what _about_ props, other than "bring 'em"?
[11:13] <05Corinne> we need a list of set stuff.
[11:13] <05Corinne> we have a title, lets build it around that.
[11:14] <05eric> a large cuddly toy version of something with lots of fangs would be nice
[11:14] <05Corinne> swords
[11:14] <05Corinne> hats
[11:14] <05Corinne> whips
[11:14] <05eric> ...and an inflatable animal of some kind
[11:14] <05Corinne> the last two are always findeable at ccde though
[11:14] <05David> Question: Is there a script for this thing or is everyone making it up on the night?
[11:14] <05Kincaid> ooh, I can get a blunt but real cavalry sword
[11:14] <05Corinne> eric: could you make up a script outline to help the participants along?
[11:14] <05eric> David...largely improv...with a very tight format
[11:15] <05David> OK
[11:15] <05eric> Corinne...already working on it
[11:15] <05Corinne> great
[11:15] <05Turtle> add supersoakers to the props.
[11:15] <05David> Turtle: LOL
[11:15] <05eric> no supersoakers please
[11:15] <05Turtle> though make sure they're empty
[11:15] <05Corinne> wha? oh comeon...
[11:15] <05David> Agreed, but a nice suggestion :-)
[11:16] <05Corinne> they don't have to be full, as turtle says, and should a futuristic angle develop, they'd be useful as guns.
[11:16] <05eric> what we REALLY need is a perspex tube with a light bulb at the end
[11:16] * hippo has a squeeky caveman's club he can bring
[11:16] <05Corinne> and/or representative of future technology.
[11:16] <05eric> bring it
[11:16] <05Kincaid> Nerf Gun!!
[11:16] <05Corinne> eric: a lightsabre?
[11:17] <05Kincaid> I'll see what I can find
[11:17] <05eric> Corinne...yep...as I said a perspex tupe with a light bulb at the end
[11:18] <05eric> we also need a clapper board
[11:18] <05Corinne> and a big papier mache rock. (kidding)
[11:19] <05eric> clapper board is serious...would be superb as a way of signalling what is going on
[11:20] <05eric> ...plus an excellent source of crass slapstick gags
[11:20] <05Corinne> anything else?
[11:21] <05eric> ...standard running gag one...scene starts with Cohen right next to the clapper board...*clap*...
[11:21] <05Corinne> so, fluffy toys, weapons, film paraphenalia and hats pretty much covers it.
[11:21] <05eric> ...Cohen is fine...promptly has an entirely different accident]
[11:21] <05Corinne> eric: it's not like we don't know what you mean.
[11:22] <05Jens> Isn't it?
[11:23] <05Jens> well, never mind that... any further procrastination about CCDE, or shall we go on to arguing over whose fault it is that we don't have a sensible budget an' lotsa money?
[11:24] <05eric> can we hold that argument until next week when we have Nick here
[11:24] <05eric> or we'll just end up talking in circles
[11:24] <05Corinne> why? he gave you all the info at the audition.
[11:24] <05Turtle> Winning the lottery is on my todo list.
[11:24] <05Kincaid> as I said, I can supply a real sword - will that be ok?
[11:24] <05Corinne> he told you how much dvds would cost, how much video would cost, how much the tshirts cost.
[11:25] *** Jens changes topic to 'Agenda: [1)CCDE]  -2) Budget-  *3) Status Reports*  4) AOB'
[11:25] *** Retrieving #movie info...
[11:25] <05Jens> kinc: yes
[11:25] *** Corinne changes topic to 'Agenda: [1)CCDE]  *2) Budget*  3) Status Reports  4) AOB'
[11:25] <05Corinne> actually.
[11:25] <05David> Just out of interest, how much did the DVDs end up costing?
[11:25] <05Kincaid> assuming I find it at my Dads place
[11:26] <05Corinne> ask eric, he's been told, after all.
[11:26] <05David> OK
[11:26] <05Jens> that question brings us to the argument about membership forms that we were avoiding
[11:26] <05Corinne> what argument?
[11:26] <05eric> I don't know...I had no reason to asume I'd need to remember exact figures
[11:26] <05Corinne> eric: oh, really?
[11:27] <05Jens> The argument that went on for three hours in the last log
[11:28] <05Jens> i.e., are we in deep excrement if we charge extra for DVD membership.
[11:28] *** Jens changes topic to 'Agenda: [1)CCDE]  *2) Budget*  3) Status Reports  4) AOB 5) Memberships  6) standard joke goes here'
[11:28] *** Corinne is now known as thom
[11:28] *** thom is on IRC
[11:29] <05thom> paging aquarion... would aquarion please come to the white courtesy phone...
[11:30] <05Kincaid> he's in Cambrige at peters gaff
[11:30] <05thom> o...kay..
[11:30] <05Kincaid> as is Susan
[11:31] <05thom> another meet? they're insatiable.
[11:31] <05Kincaid> I was there too. T'was fun
[11:31] <05David> It's getting close to bucket of water time, huh?
[11:31] <05eric> "insatiable" is that a euphonium?
[11:31] <05Kincaid> yep
[11:32] <05thom> i'm sorry? do you know something i don't?
[11:32] <05eric> not now :)
[11:32] <05Jens> I always wanted to learn to play the euphonium...
[11:33] <05Kincaid> ooompah oooooomPAH!
[11:33] <05David> [cough] ... right ... party's getting rough...
[11:33] <05thom> i always wanted to play the euphemism.. but i was told i couldnt blow my own horn..
[11:33] <05eric> LOL
[11:33] <05hippo> <g>
[11:33] <05David> LOL
[11:33] <05Kincaid> not supple enough, huh?
[11:33] <05thom> they said i'd need a rib removed. anyway, crashing on.
[11:34] <05Jens> Reminds me of that ol' Swedish punk classic, "I can't suck myself" (no seriously)
[11:34] <05thom> surely there's a comma missing there?
[11:34] <05hippo> hehe
[11:34] <05Jens> where?
[11:34] <05eric> want a copy...who recorded it?
[11:34] <05Jens> "Köttgrottorna". It's in Swedish.
[11:34] <05Jens> Actual title is Züga
[11:34] <05thom> well, if it's just general information, "i can't suck, myself"...
[11:34] <05thom> "no lungs, see?"
[11:35] <05David> Christ stop it ... my stomach hurts ... I haven't laughed this much in ages
[11:35] <05Jens> thom: nope, that ain't it
[11:35] <05Jens> Now a comma between "no" and "seriously", that I'd accept
[11:35] <05thom> close, but no banana, eh?
[11:35] <05eric> ROTFLMAO
[11:35] <05Jens> thom: but what's the point of sucking a banana?
[11:35] <05David> Aargh!
[11:35] <05Jens> Anyway... anything about the budget that doesn't involve DVDs?
[11:35] <05thom> oh, dear.. shall we excise this bit when the minutes are posted?
[11:36] <05David> WTF for? It's classic afpers!
[11:36] <05Jens> What, do you think people take us seriously as it is?
[11:37] <05eric> next stage AFAIAC is to start setting likely locations to bits of the script
[11:37] <05eric> ...which will start to give a clear idea of transport costs
[11:37] <05thom> right... those that have seen the current script will know that quite a few locales have been switched and swapped. for eg., we no longer need granny's cottage.
[11:38] <05eric> ooh
[11:38] <05Turtle> thom: haven't seen the current script yet. Can you mail it?
[11:38] <05thom> no probs.
[11:38] <05Jens> Do I need to read maskerade_definitive.doc _and_ all the bits?
[11:38] <05David> Okaaaaaaaaay ... interesting. I'm going to curl up in bed tonight with it. Any other clangers I should know about that migth keep me awake???
[11:39] <05thom> jens: well, maskerade definitive is the script from 1-43ish. the other bits are scenes beyond that that don't fit into any order.
[11:39] <05Jens> Ahh, a turtle scene for David, I see
[11:39] <05Jens> OK
[11:39] <05Turtle> <thwap>
[11:39] * Jens hands Patrick some elephants
[11:40] * Turtle juggles a thousand elephants
[11:40] <05David> Just as well ... I had "Wyrd Sisters" out for Mum tonight, and even *she* commented on the 'quality' of the opening title sequence...
[11:41] <05Jens> The old intro looked a tad less expensive...
[11:41] <05David> Well, what I'll do for you will look *very* expensive but won't cost you a cent. How about that?
[11:41] <05thom> itym "bloody awful"
[11:41] <05thom> david: that's the spirit!
[11:42] <05Jens> David: I was more referring to the bits flying through the Opera House with, you know, _people_
[11:42] <05eric> I thought the voices for WS were terrific...the animation was mediocre at it's best
[11:42] <05David> Aargh ... *people* ... argh
[11:42] <05hippo> eric : seen shrek yet ? (re quality of animation)
[11:42] <05thom> they're not cgi people, though!
[11:43] <05Jens> anna ape
[11:43] <05eric> nope
[11:43] <05thom> at least, i hope not.
[11:43] <05David> Shrek was very good - but it had a certain "look"
[11:43] <05Jens> Quite. It's the fying over the people in the auditorium and on stage that looks hard/expensive
[11:43] <05eric> thom...as yet no cgi people have appeared at an audition
[11:43] <05hippo> hehe
[11:43] <05David> i.e. the humans were not quite totally realistic
[11:44] <05David> What you're asking me to do is make CGI humans look realistic
[11:44] <05David> This is Not A Good Thing
[11:44] <05hippo> apparently better in FF as far as I can ascertain
[11:44] <05thom> david: nonono, we're going to use real humans.
[11:44] <05thom> i figured we'd cut from cgi to real when the opera house doors open.
[11:44] <05David> Hippo: workable with a team of 120 CGI artists, $220 million worth of equipment nd 3 years up your sleeve
[11:45] <05hippo> <g>
[11:45] <05thom> or possibly earlier
[11:45] <05thom> if we can find model-builders...
[11:45] <05David> I can put real humans into a CGI environment, but the actors would have to be shot in a certain way
[11:46] <05David> i.e. much the same way they did fr the Collesseum <sp?> for "Gladiator"
[11:47] <05thom> woah, woah, woah, we've not got ridley scott's budget... i doubt we've got ridley scott's budget for the hovis ads in the 70s...
[11:47] <05thom> we also don't have the time.
[11:47] <05David> nonono - it's easy ... once you know how
[11:47] <05thom> well.. yes, we do, actually...
[11:47] <05eric> I don't think we've got Ridley Scott's hovis budget for the ads
[11:48] <05thom> mmm...hovis...
[11:48] <05eric> ...expensive bread that Hovis
[11:48] <05eric> ...for reconstituted cardboard
[11:48] <05Kincaid> I prefer warburtons
[11:49] <05David> Just shoot the actors on a plain blue or light green backdrop ... I then chroma-key them, and can place them in a CGI scene. It worked for "Gladiator"...
[11:49] <05thom> the point is, though, we should have actual genuine real locations for the actors to be in. which means we won't need it to be cg'd..
[11:49] <05eric> job lot of plain blue piant folks
[11:50] <05Jens> AFAIAA "just" as a bad word to use in chroma-keying
[11:50] <05David> Thom: always the best way :-)
[11:50] <05Jens> Witness Phantasmagoria: ghosts have blue halos, and that wasn't a desig decision
[11:50] <05David> There's bad keying and good keying. The secret is in ensuring the key colour is evenly lit
[11:52] <05Jens> Anyway... let's hope we don't need to learn
[11:52] <05thom> *crosses fingers*
[11:53] <05Jens> Anyway... chromakeying isn't a budget issue. Budget issues, anyone?
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[11:53] <05thom> hi joy
[11:53] <05eric> hi Joy :)
[11:53] <05Joy> hi
[11:53] *** Jens sets mode: +o Joy
[11:53] <05David> Hello Joy
[11:53] <05Jens> hi joy
[11:53] <05Turtle> hiya joy
[11:54] <05Joy> so, what hapeneth?
[11:54] <05Jens> Hmm, blasted heath... pity I didn't take any pictures of the moors in the west, just houses
[11:55] <05Jens> Joy: we're avoiding discussing budget at the mo
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[11:55] <05thom> i reckon, if we can, we can use the *actual* blasted heath up in scotland. it's near a road, but if you shoot the other way, you wouldn'
[11:55] <05thom> tt know
[11:55] <05Joy> blasted heath?  why not Dartmoor?  closer for most
[11:56] <05Jens> thom: see?
[11:56] <05Jens> Dartmoor was cleared of F&M stuff a week ago, too
[11:56] <05thom> true 'nuff. but authenticity... oh, bugger it, yeah, dartmoor is, obviously, perfect
[11:56] <05thom> ish
[11:57] <05eric> next step is to give each scene a set of possible locations and then decide the feasibility of each
[11:57] <05Joy> pretty blasted around Princetown -- and you could lunch at the Plume of feathers, which is the best pub on the moor :-)
[11:57] <05eric> for instance...that sounds very fea\sible to me :)
[11:57] <05Turtle> mmm... lunch ;)
[11:58] <05Jens> Scotland's fine by me, mind... shall we move on to status reports?
[11:58] <05Kincaid> I reckomend we film based upon the Good Pub Guide :-)
[11:58] <05thom> sounds good.
[11:58] <05eric> LOL
[11:58] <05eric> OK...current status...still a little drunk from last night
[11:59] <05Joy> status: flustered and busy, with shop opening in a fortnight, but finished and sent il porcupino to Corinne.
[12:00] *** Jens changes topic to 'Agenda: [1)CCDE]  [2) Budget]  *3) Status Reports*  4) AOB 5) Memberships  6) standard joke goes here'
[12:00] <05David> Current status ... feeling bleary from 5 solid slog days for 2 days film shoot ... folks: be prepared to feel tired and shagged out after a long squawk...
[12:00] <05thom> 20p, david.
[12:00] <05Jens> Current status: sober, but going away again next week...
[12:00] <05David> Aargh
[12:01] <05thom> current status: in the middle of a writing blitz, with maskerade just about prioritised.
[12:01] <05Jens> 'sgood.
[12:01] <05Jens> AOB?
[12:01] <05eric> http://www.toshforrester.com/CSongIndex.htm
[12:02] <05eric> we've finished it now :)
[12:02] *** Jens changes topic to 'Agenda: [1)CCDE]  [2) Budget]  [3) Status Reports]  *4) AOB* 5) Memberships  6) standard joke goes here'
[12:02] <05David> At any rate, I'm on track to finish my film by the end of September, and have its premiere here in Sydney by early November. Then I can concentrate on M stuff solidly
[12:02] <05thom> david: ooh, nice.
[12:02] <05Kincaid> cool
[12:02] <05Joy> If you lot have seen 'il porcupino', is it okay?
[12:02] <05David> Eric: downloading mp3s as we type...
[12:02] <05Turtle> yeah, cool.
[12:02] <05eric> David...stick to the studio ones
[12:02] <05eric> :)
[12:03] <05David> ahaha - I went straight for the "eric" vocals one mwahahahaaaa
[12:03] <05thom> joy: it's hilarious. and hopefully impenetrable enough to pass for real opera :)
[12:03] <05eric> LOL...not the best version we ever did...but the sound quality on all the live recordings is lousy
[12:03] <05Jens> Ain't seen nuffin'.
[12:04] <05thom> joy: do you want it placed on the site, or something like that?
[12:04] <05Joy> Sure, more than happy to have that done
[12:04] <05Jens> Seems like a good idea to me
[12:04] <05thom> okay, i'll ask corinne to do that.
[12:05] <05Joy> some of it is translation of the original 'hedgehog song' some of it twisted and changed to get ryhmes in italian (or rather iltalian-ish)
[12:05] <05eric> Brindisian
[12:06] <05Joy> *smile*
[12:07] <05David> sorry - is 'il porcupino' available online anywhere now?
[12:07] <05thom> not yet... we'll post on the mailinglist when it is... prolly this afternoon, okay?
[12:07] <05David> OK
[12:07] <05David> eric: why grandma ... what a *lovely* singing voice you have...
[12:09] <05eric> hollering voice in that particular case
[12:10] <05David> see the value of good mics? ;-P
[12:10] <05eric> ooh yes indeedy...also the value of banning cassette recorders in rehearsals :)
[12:10] <05David> LOL
[12:14] <05thom> alrighty, then, is that everything everyone wanted to discuss now?
[12:14] <05thom> speak now or forever hold your peace.
[12:14] <05thom> for a week.
[12:15] <05Jens> I think so. Closing... closing...
[12:15] <05Jens> clone.
[12:16] <05David> OK OK
[12:16] *** Jens changes topic to 'The 1 000 Elephants Club: because 999 just didn't cut the mustard.'
[12:17] *** thom changes topic to 'The 1 000 Elephants Club: because 999 just didn't cut the cheese'
[12:17] <05David> If their toenails had been painted yellow, then maybe they could have cut the custard
[12:17] <05eric> :(
[12:17] <05Joy> Oh, I thought I might write a 1000 elephants filk TTTO Nellie.
[12:18] <05Jens> Nellie?
[12:18] <05thom> uh-oh.. :)
[12:18] *** Jens changes topic to 'The 1 000 Elephants Club: because 999 just didn't cut the bananas'
[12:18] *** Jens changes topic to 'The 1 000 Elephants Club: because 999 just didn't cut the banananas'
[12:18] <05Joy> Nellie the Elephant :-)
[12:19] <05Turtle> ok, I'm off again - see youse next week
[12:19] <05Kincaid> I'm gonna fall off in a minute
[12:19] <05eric> bye Turtle
[12:19] <05David> Ooroo, turtle
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[12:19] <05eric> bye Karl
[12:19] <05thom> hokay, bye
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[12:19] *** thom is now known as Corinne
[12:20] <05Jens> Do sculleries usually have rocking chairs in them?
[12:20] <05Corinne> oh, yes.
[12:20] <05Jens> I sort of assumed they'd left the scullery by that point
[12:20] <05eric> essential
[12:20] <05Corinne> the ones i've been in.
[12:20] <05Corinne> damn, i'm not corinne...
[12:20] <05Corinne> yes, i will be... now.
[12:20] <05Jens> me niether... hth
[12:21] <05David> If you folks'll excuse me, I'm off to bed to have a read of a certain little film project...
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[12:21] <05eric> has to be a rocking chair in the scullery...so that Grandma can be sent there to avoid embarrassing any guests
[12:21] <05Jens> I can accept that... but a rocking chair _and_ room to pace?
[12:22] <05Corinne> she'd just make them uncomfortable with her incessant squeaking.
[12:22] <05eric> incessant knitting in the case of mine
[12:22] <05Corinne> well, both then.
[12:23] <05Corinne> I've got a dairy
[12:23] <05eric> bye all...until next week...same bat time (approximately)
[12:23] <05Jens> The most iffy location in the "definitive" script as is seems to be backstage & flies
[12:23] <05Joy> bye eric
[12:24] <05Jens> bye eric
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[12:24] <05Corinne> oh well, byebye movie channel
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